Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show, where it is usually my job to sit down with world-class performers of all different types to tease out the habits, routines, favorite books, and so on that you can apply and test in your own life.
This time, we have a very special episode I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose at SXSW in Austin, Texas!
This week is officially the podcast’s 10-year anniversary, and there is no better way to commemorate such a wild milestone than with Kevin Rose and a little tequila. As many listeners know, Kevin was my very first guest for episode 1, way back in April 2014.
Who is Kevin Rose? Kevin (@kevinrose) is a partner at True Ventures, an early-stage venture-capital firm that has invested more than $3.8 billion in a portfolio of more than 350 companies. He also hosts The Kevin Rose Show, which offers glimpses of the future into investing, artificial intelligence, wellness, and culture, featuring conversations with experts at the vanguard of their fields.
In this episode, we discuss the dangers of audience capture, novel mental-health treatments, modern dating, Ozempic, time dilation, Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul, and much, much more.
Please enjoy!
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What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.
Want to hear the last time Kevin and I put on a Random Show? Listen to our conversation here, in which we discussed tequila, resolutions of New Years past, early investor advantages, privacy and liability concerns in an AI-guided world, physical reboots, perilous cocktails, how NFTs drove Kevin to ketamine, tattoos, ayahuasca agony alleviation and alternatives, minimalist delegation, and much more.
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Connect with Kevin Rose:
Website | Instagram | Twitter | Threads
- SXSW Conference & Festivals
- Red Ocean Strategy vs. Blue Ocean Strategy I Blue Ocean Strategy
- Dr. Martine Rothblatt — A Masterclass on Asking Better Questions and Peering Into the Future (#487) – The Blog of Author Tim Ferriss
- Ed Catmull, President of Pixar, on Steve Jobs, Stories, and Lessons Learned | The Tim Ferriss Show #22
- Aizuchi: A Beginner’s Guide to Japanese Grunting Etiquette | FluentU Japanese
- Be Useful — Arnold Schwarzenegger on 7 Tools for Life, Thinking Big, Building Resilience, Processing Grief, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #696
- Hugh Jackman on Best Decisions, Daily Routines, The 85% Rule, Favorite Exercises, Mind Training, and Much More | The Tim Ferriss Show #444
- Tony Robbins – On Achievement Versus Fulfillment | The Tim Ferriss Show #178
- Jamie Foxx on Workout Routines, Success Habits, and Untold Hollywood Stories | The Tim Ferriss Show #124
- Jamie Foxx Part 2 – Bringing the Thunder | The Tim Ferriss Show #167
- Balaji Srinivasan on the Future of Bitcoin and Ethereum, How to Become Noncancelable, the Path to Personal Freedom and Wealth in a New World, the Changing Landscape of Warfare, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #506
- A Fictional World Built for These Chaotic Times | The Legend of CØCKPUNCH
- How Do Cryptocurrency Exchange-Traded Funds (ETFs) Work? | Investopedia
- 19 Bitcoin ETFs and Their Fees, Promotions, and Holdings | NerdWallet
- Yuga Labs Acquires PROOF | Yuga Labs News
- Yuga Labs Envisions the Otherside as a Web3 Native Roblox for Adults | PlayToEarn
- Is Tequila a Stimulant or Depressant? | My Time Recovery
- Fast with Zero | Zero Longevity
- The Best Moments in Diggnation History | Diggnation
- Funding Cutting-Edge Scientific Research | Saisei Foundation
- Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation: A Review of Its Evolution and Current Applications | Industrial Psychiatry Journal
- The Limitations of DIY TMS and At-Home Devices | NeuroStim
- Evolutionary Action | Darwin Awards
- Accelerated TMS: Moving Quickly into the Future of Depression Treatment | Neuropsychopharmacology
- Nolan Williams — A Glimpse of the Future: Electroceuticals for 70%–90% Remission of Depression, Brain Stimulation for Sports Performance, and De-risking Ibogaine for TBI/PTSD | The Tim Ferriss Show #714
- Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy (SAINT) for Treatment-Resistant Depression | American Journal of Psychiatry
- Innovative, Noninvasive Treatment | BrainsWay Deep TMS
- Insane Clown Posse: Miracles (Official Music Video) | Psychopathic Records
- The Origin of Great Founding Stories | Magnus Ventures
- TMS Devices Review: Side-By-Side Comparison Table | Florida TMS Clinic
- Zap to the Brain Alters Libido in Unique Sex Study | New Scientist
- Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection by Charles Duhigg | Amazon
- Jinjer: Pisces (Live Session) | Napalm Records
- Jinjer | Website
- Sohn: Tremors (Live with the Metropole Orkest) | Sohn
- Sohn | Website
- Where Wall Street Unites to Fight Childhood Cancer | The Sohn Conference Foundation
- Apple Is Doing Its Part to End Green Bubble Shaming. It’s Our Turn. | The New York Times
- Google Gemini Update & New AI Tools | AI Revolution
- Apple Can’t Build AI, So It’s Reportedly Asking Google Gemini to Power Siri | Gizmodo
- Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul Fight Rules up in Air. Here’s Why. | USA Today
- Airlines Want You to Lose Weight. Ozempic May Save Them Millions | Business Insider
- The Peter Attia Drive Podcast
- Major CVD Event Risk Cut by 20% in Adults without Diabetes, with Overweight or Obesity | American Heart Association
- Dexcom Continuous Glucose Monitoring | Dexcom
- Will Steroids Shrink My Balls? | Men’s Health
- Raisinets Milk Chocolate-Covered California Raisins | Amazon
- Compatibility Before Photos? A New Dating App Takes a Personality-First Approach to Online Dating | Forbes
- Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia | Amazon
- What Makes Life Enjoyable at an Older Age? Experiential Well-Being, Daily Activities, and Satisfaction with Life in General | Aging & Mental Health
- The Experiential Life | Resilience
- Why You Should Seek More Awe in the New Year | Tim Ferriss
- Ace Ventura: Pet Detective | Prime Video
- Everyday Dharma: 8 Essential Practices for Finding Success and Joy in Everything You Do by Suneel Gupta | Amazon
- A Personalized Journey to Inner Peace, Clarity, and Wellness | Transcendental Meditation
- Meditation Training Program | The Way
SHOW NOTES
- [07:20] First live Random Show?
- [07:50] Reasons to celebrate.
- [08:30] How long can this go on?
- [10:15] Mmm…Mmm.
- [11:53] Inflection points.
- [13:00] Interesting over impulse.
- [14:46] Bitcoin ETFs.
- [17:22] PROOF news.
- [18:41] What’s Kevin’s next project?
- [21:15] Don’t DIY your TMS.
- [22:57] The SAINT protocol and accelerated TMS.
- [23:42] Kevin wonders how magnets work.
- [24:27] How accelerated TMS has helped me.
- [28:02] Consumer access to accelerated TMS.
- [31:50] How TMS feels, and other possible uses.
- [32:49] Potential downsides.
- [35:10] How to find out more about accelerated TMS.
- [38:18] How to appear human in social situations.
- [45:20] Jinjer and Sohn.
- [46:24] Android and Gemini.
- [48:41] Content production and future fame.
- [49:58] Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson.
- [52:02] Kevin’s deflated balls.
- [55:49] My single life.
- [59:39] Extending experiential lifespan.
- [1:06:12] This is (Henry Shukman’s) The Way.
- [1:07:16] Thank you! Good night!
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Tim, I'm trying to follow instructions on how contact you via your blog. I just listened to a podcast interview with a brilliant psychiatrist who convincingly argues that many psychiatric problems are really mast cell flare ups (MCAS – Mast Cell Activation Syndrome) in the brain. These mast cell flare ups are well known to cause physical problems throughout the body but this is the first time I've heard them get connected with psychiatric episodes. With all your work on mental health, I'm convinced you would find the podcast fascinating. It's an interview on Spotify with Dr. Janet Settle on the podcast Mast Cell Matters, dated December 5, 2023. I have no connection to her and am only hoping you can spread the word.
Happy 10 years Tim and many thanks. I bought the 4-hour work week in 2008 when I was an avid daily reader. Years later in 2017, I was a stay-at-home mother playing with my lovely 1 and 3 year old kids each day, struggling to have time to read books longer than 10 thick non-rippable cardboard pages. I was super lucky to be spending so much time with my children, but I was also starving for mental stimulation and a bit lonely for adult company. Then the world of podcasts came to my attention and with it your name, which I recognised from my dusty neglected bookcase. Since then, you have kept me company (and sane) on many a drive or walk, or while hanging out laundry three times a day. I don’t listen religiously, I certainly haven’t listened to them all but I have enjoyed many. Neil Gaiman was a highlight, as was your introduction to Dr Peter Attia years ago, whose podcast I still enjoy from time to time. Just the other week you introduced me to Hugh Howey, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading Wool this last month (with the kids being older I do get time to read content and not just listen). Despite the podcast landscape being intensely crowded now, while I do listen to others, I still like what you do. I like that I never feel angry or annoyed at the world after listening to your podcasts. While topical issues are important I find too much of that isn’t great for one’s mental state. I like that somewhere in your episode list I can usually find something fascinating to get me through a long drive (of which I do many). I mean I didn’t know Scott Glenn’s name until your podcast, but I certainly knew the face, and what a fascinating life. When I choose to listen to a podcast with a guest I have never heard of I think it’s about trust. It’s that I trust that if you find this person interesting then it’s likely I will too. You have mentioned a few times about the trend towards video content. I don’t completely understand it. I love listening to audiobooks and podcasts, particularly long-form deep high-quality conversations. I am never just sitting around listening to a podcast. I am driving (lots of driving), walking the dog, cleaning, cooking, mowing the lawn, painting the bathroom … whatever. I am primarily an audio content consumer, I am not into YouTube unless I am learning how to mix concrete, fix a hole in a plasterboard wall or change the blade on the mower. So congrats on a wonderful ten years of great intelligent interesting and mentally stimulating audio content. You will always have my thanks for keeping me sane.
Hi Tim, I am following your contact instructions and posting here. I am a former post-doc of Nolan, and a physician-scientist working with some people you know. I am running a very innovative SAINT clinical trial. I am contacting you to see if you are interested in getting involved and expanding the trial which would surely contribute to its impact. Thanks for all you do!
What was the name of the archery youtube channel you mentioned? I was looking for it in the show notes but can't seem to find it.
Tim, we are currently running four SAINT clinical trials at UT Austin (it's not just Stanford!). I am wondering if you are interested in supporting further SAINT trials and accelerated theta burst generally at UT Austin? With a little extra support, we could transform the entire field! Thanks.
Hi S.O. I'm interested in this clinical trial. I'm caregiver for my father who has drug resistant bipolar depression. How can I get in touch with you ?